tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2151523058877729861.post6755771998916703969..comments2023-04-25T19:06:56.413-07:00Comments on Into Thy Calm: The End of America, Part II (continued political contemplations by an orthodox rebel)Halcyonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12264274336322086961noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2151523058877729861.post-41549040923723696662013-02-12T13:20:22.438-08:002013-02-12T13:20:22.438-08:00Anon:
Thanks for the encouragement. 8^)
(1) I...<b>Anon:</b><br /><br />Thanks for the encouragement. 8^)<br /><br />(1) I'm not sure why you think I'm "idealizing" the Founders. I'm pretty sure I pointed out their overly generalized definition of their "God" and how their gamble (while brilliant) was doomed to failure.<br /><br />(2) I've called postmodernism "slavery" (more or less) elsewhere, though I dubbed it as slavery to chaos rather than slavery to "anti-human material reality," which may actually be the same thing.<br /><br />(3) God can save America (or not) if He wants to. My point was that the very nature of America is such that the only way it can survive is to have <i>some</i> kind of unifying force. The Founders picked "God" (their water-downed version of Him), which would ultimately not survive. That's my message: not that God will save us, but that we are our own demise. Nothing more.<br /><br />(4) I already mentioned in this post (and the previous one) that other unifying factors are out there, though if they ever were adopted by America then they too would share the same fate as "God".<br /><br />(5) I agree, but I make that point in another post (the one on "Christian Anarchism").<br /><br />(6) I agree, because that's what I <i>already</i> said. I gave <i>three</i> options: new atheism, new deism, and postmodernism.<br /><br />Again, thanks for the encouragement. Just be a little more careful when analyzing the posts. I don't want anyone to miss anything.Halcyonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12264274336322086961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2151523058877729861.post-21128142180779993052013-02-06T20:57:52.941-08:002013-02-06T20:57:52.941-08:00But these are good posts, man. Keep 'em comin...But these are good posts, man. Keep 'em coming! ;-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2151523058877729861.post-13917964594789443932013-02-06T19:53:13.491-08:002013-02-06T19:53:13.491-08:00I tried posting a really eloquent response to this...I tried posting a really eloquent response to this and my browser lost it. I won't repost everything, but I will briefly bulletize some points...<br /><br />- Your mention of the Founders is too idealized in my opinion. Some would argue that they were merely used as instrument of power, as was Locke in writing his Second Treatise.<br /><br />- Of course we are all "postmodern" (whatever that means, anyways), as we are all living through the present age. You need to be more direct and just call it slavery. It's not chattel slavery, but slavery nonetheless, with a modern twist where the faces of master and slave are obscured. People's Enlightenment-era understandings of human freedom and inalienable rights are juxtaposed against an anti-human material reality, which seeks their obsolescence.<br /><br />- Of course America is going to eventually fail. As will all things man. But you have mixed your message up in this post. You cannot argue that the Christian God is the savior of America, as you don't; but you kind of do, arguing that Americanness will be preserved, by the grace of God, in some other form or in some fragmented scenario. He is not the savior of states, but the supposed savior of man. <br /><br />- Not likely, but America could very well continue, absent God. This is because *America*, a manmade creation, mustn't revolve the Christian God, necessarily, as a unifying abstraction. America could indeed continue on with a *new* unifying abstraction that is not the Christian God, such as a worship of the planet Earth as a living being (likely), maybe eventually morphing into a worship of a living god-man, as was seen in the past with Ramses or Alexander (also likely, in my opinion). A more focused post here would have been helpful to "newbies" to this sort of discourse, that maybe just stumbled upon your blog.<br /><br />- Indeed any new reformation or formulation of America would also eventually fail. But this was the point of one of the comments in your previous posts... Your article is really talking about the depravity of man. Not the depravity of the state. Nothing to see here, folks...<br /><br />- Understanding oneself to be living in the "postmodern" age, without a regard for the Christian God, does not mean that said person is an atheist.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com